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Rudy Giuliani looks straight into the camera and says the President isn’t cutting him loose.
President Trump’s personal attorney sat down with anchor Ed Henry for an exclusive live interview on Fox News’ “America’s News HQ” on November 23, 2019, just days after the House Intelligence Committee wrapped its public impeachment hearings. Giuliani used the segment to knock down talk that Trump might scapegoat him over his Ukraine dealings, insist his own conduct in Kyiv was lawful, and go after Chairman Adam Schiff and House Democrats for what he called a partisan effort to undo the 2016 election.
- Giuliani flatly denied speculation that Trump would “throw me under the bus,” telling Henry the two men have an ironclad relationship.
- He clarified his earlier comment about holding an “insurance policy” against Trump, calling it sarcastic while claiming he has extensive documentation of Democratic corruption in Ukraine tied to the Bidens.
- He again defended the July 25 call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, arguing it was within the President’s authority to investigate potential corruption.
No Daylight Between Giuliani and Trump
The most pointed moment of the interview came when Henry pressed Giuliani on whether he was worried about being isolated as scrutiny of his Ukraine dealings intensified. Giuliani didn’t hedge. He told Henry he and Trump remain aligned, rejecting the narrative — circulating in Washington coverage of the hearings — that the President was preparing to distance himself from his own lawyer.
Giuliani insisted Trump would never “throw me under the bus,” pointing to what he described as an ironclad relationship with the President.
That denial mattered because it directly addressed the “insurance policy” line Giuliani had floated previously, a remark that had fueled speculation he was preparing to protect himself if the relationship soured. On air, he told Henry the comment was sarcastic, then pivoted to claim he’s sitting on extensive documentation he says shows widespread Democratic corruption in Ukraine involving Hunter and Joe Biden.
Defending the July 25 Call
Giuliani used much of the segment to re-litigate the substance of the call at the center of the inquiry — the July 25 conversation between Trump and Zelensky. His argument stayed consistent with what he’s said publicly for weeks: a sitting president has every right to ask a foreign government about potential corruption, and doing so isn’t an impeachable offense. He framed his own diplomatic outreach and investigative work in Kyiv the same way, describing it as lawful activity conducted in defense of his client rather than freelance foreign policy.
Going After Schiff and the Hearings
Giuliani didn’t soften his criticism of the House Intelligence Committee’s public hearings that had just concluded. He accused Chairman Adam Schiff and congressional Democrats of running a partisan operation aimed at invalidating the 2016 election rather than getting at the facts. It’s a line of attack that’s tracked closely with the broader pushback from the President’s team — a defense strategy Fox News viewers have heard echoed from other Trump allies, including Kayleigh McEnany in her own combative sessions with reporters.
The interview landed at a moment when the inquiry’s next steps — whether the House Judiciary Committee would take up articles of impeachment — were still being sorted out in Washington, a process playing out alongside other storylines Trump was juggling that same week, including his ongoing fight over foreign policy positions he’d staked out at the UN.
Giuliani closed the way he opened: no daylight with the President, no regrets about Kyiv, and a promise that his files on the Bidens would eventually back up everything he’d been saying since the story broke.
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